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Post by maxrider12 on Jun 25, 2011 7:42:42 GMT -8
I think South America ended up being flooded by about half. According to this map, most of Mexico is gone, so I'd say Central America is definitely dead, and probably the Northern part of South America. If Antarctica had the same problem, part of the South will be gone, too.
Although, I just realized something. Wouldn't the Capitol want to rebuild in DC? 'Cos if they did, they'd sort of be saying, "We win, and the old government loses."
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Post by KATE on Jun 25, 2011 9:24:23 GMT -8
The capitol's location is more strategic because I far as we know DC is flooded and we don't know how long after the end of our government this is. The US could just be a folk tale at this time. Also, the rockies as base would give great protection against people without an airforce, they're called the alps of the west for a reason. Also the east coast is very traditional and has this very sophisticated image in people heads. The modern west you thinkcalifornia, beaches, hollywood. Fun times right? And the capitol lives for fun.
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Post by maxrider12 on Jun 25, 2011 11:38:16 GMT -8
Woah, that sounded all ominous and stuff. In all seriousness, that's quite true. I always imagined it to be 150 years in the future, and since the constitution has been around for 235 years (roughly) and I imagined all the natural disasters to be 75 years in the future, people would still remember it. They just wouldn't abide by it. I don't think the US would be a folk tale, though. We learn about US history - wouldn't they learn Panem history in Panem? Katniss said in the first book that they learned about people who had mined for the coal before them - I say that counts as Panem history.
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Post by Hannah on Jun 26, 2011 7:40:16 GMT -8
They say that there's a lecture on Panem history once a week in school in D12 (on Friday, I believe).
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Post by koalakoala on Jun 27, 2011 21:36:04 GMT -8
I think it's plausible that the U.S. is just a folk tale. Panem history would probably be about the Dark Days, not U.S. history. Getting back on topic, look what I found: aimmyarrowshigh.livejournal.com/32461.html. I'm still underwater, but it seems really thorough.
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Post by maxrider12 on Jun 28, 2011 9:20:28 GMT -8
Well, they probably wouldn't learn about stuff like the Pilgrims, but they would probably learn about things like the Civil War, the Revolutionary War, basically the worst US wars, so they would know about how it was in the "Dark Days." By only telling them about the worst things, the president can control them more easily.
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Post by Rowena on Jun 30, 2011 8:05:28 GMT -8
I'm dead, as most of MD is underwater But if I moved into Wester Maryland, I would be in D12.
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Post by koalakoala on Jun 30, 2011 12:57:54 GMT -8
@max, I think having them not know what happened before Panem would be a better strategy for controlling the districts. Teaching something like the Revolutionary War could stir up rebellion, because it's essentially a similar idea to the colonists turning against Great Britain. And an important part of both the Revolutionary War and the Civil War is freedom, and the Capitol can't promote that.
It's important to note that no one thinks there's any other country existing besides Panem. They don't even consider the possibility, so they must not have learned any history of WWI, II, War on Terror. So teaching that there were once countries across the Ocean where we fought wars (Europe, Middle East, Vietnam, Korea) doesn't seem like the best strategy for oppression either, right?
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Post by maxrider12 on Jun 30, 2011 15:01:52 GMT -8
@koala
Maybe they would twist it to make it sound awful? Like, instead of, "The North won the Civil War," it would be more like, "Nobody truly won the Civil War, but most of Ancient Panem died."
You're right that they probably wouldn't talk about other countries. Or maybe they would say something like, "They all died in the natural disasters, or were disbanded."
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Post by KATE on Jun 30, 2011 20:37:27 GMT -8
I don't think they would even educate them on anything outside Panem. Ignorance is easier to control. ANd I agree about them not being taught the history, I mean The United States breaking away from the country that ran them and helped their founding, probably isn't the message the Capitol wants sent to their youth. Edit I looked around, and since this is slightly on topic, if you go to this website globalfloodmap.org/And set it at anywhere from 4000-4500 inches of sea level rising, sould this give us an idea of what Panem looks like, without the districts anyway?
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Post by maxrider12 on Jul 1, 2011 15:59:52 GMT -8
That was a really interesting map. Thanks, if I do a little research (yeah right) I could make my own map of Panem ;D I still think they'd twist the wars. Make it sound like war (or, more likely, rebellion) was the worst thing to ever happen, and that it happened constantly until the Capitol took over. I hate that I continue to contradict you two, but this is how I feel about it.
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Post by Subject Matter on Jul 2, 2011 3:21:30 GMT -8
According to my geographical location, being in Florida and all, I'm close to D11. But, then again, D4 is pretty close. I'd prefer that, because that's where Derryl from my fanfic is from Or, you know, I could drown. That's an option too. So I'll die if antarctica melts? Boo! ... From my favorite character in the book, I'd be in D12. I'm a major Team Peeta/Gale. They're tied in my book. Although D4 would be much better. ^.^
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Post by maxrider12 on Jul 4, 2011 9:12:03 GMT -8
If it was based on favorite character, I think District 12 would be the most crowded District ever. ;D
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Post by scriptumhaedus on Jul 6, 2011 10:35:36 GMT -8
I'm like squished between 10 and 11
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Post by Ducky Momo on Jul 7, 2011 8:09:16 GMT -8
My state is cut between 9 and 2 but my city is in 2 so i guess 2!!
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