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Post by Rowena on Apr 22, 2011 5:43:43 GMT -8
Okay, I know there are a *lot* of "what if's" in Mockingjay, but this is one that sticks out to me.
It has to do with this quote, which I found really powerful when I read MJ:
Gale comes up behind me and we examine each other’s reflection. I’m searching for something to hang on to, some sign of the girl and the boy who met by chance in the woods five years ago and became inseparable. I’m wondering what would have happened to them if the Hunger Games had not reaped the girl. If she would have fallen in love with the boy, married him even. And sometime in the future, when the brothers and the sisters had been raised up, escaped with him into the woods and left 12 behind forever. Would they have been happy, out in the wild, or would the dark, twisted sadness between them have grown up even without the Capitol’s help?
What do you think? And I don't mean this in a biased, "of-course-she-should-have-ended-up-with-(insert Gale or Peeta here)" way, but do you really think that Katniss and Gale's friendship - let alone any romantic possibilities - would have crumbled had Katniss not gone to the Games? At the end of Mockingjay, Katniss says she picked Peeta because Gale was too tempermental, like her, and they didn't work together because of that, but do you think that she would have realized it if her being in the Games hadn't spurred the rebellion?
Really long discussion post, I know, but I'm curious as to what you guys think about this.
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Post by KATE on Apr 22, 2011 6:05:14 GMT -8
Now, as we all know, I am a huge fan of Gale. I'm less of a Gale/Katniss fan than when in HG first began but I can actually see that possible future for them.
In MJ Katniss says one of the things that tied them together was the mutual need to survive, because both of them being so similar they both knew that they would need the other to survive.
If Katniss had never been reaped, I doubt Peeta would have ever really talked to her, and she would have reacted similarly. Also, Katniss really wouldn't have needed him.
It makes sense that had she never been reaped, Katniss and Gale would have ran off into the woods together, maybe not have had kids, but going into the woods would have been an easy choice for them if their siblings were older.
Thats my opinion anyway.
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Post by vividlyvisceral on May 1, 2011 20:57:32 GMT -8
I'm going to be the debbie downer and say that they would've run off into the forest and gotten killed. Lavinia tried it, and she got pretty damn far and they still got her. Although their friendship at least wouldn't have been crumbled to pieces if they had run off and gotten killed.
They'd just be dead.
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Post by KATE on May 2, 2011 20:32:34 GMT -8
I don't think they would have just turned out dead. I mean eventually if they kept running east they would have hit 13, especially after they heard about it. The capitol might have gotten to them, but I don't think if Katniss was never reaped she and gale could have run off into the woods and they could have been considered dead, we never knew the back story to Lavinia she could have been on a high treason list.Bonnie and Twill had no experience living out on their own. Gale and Katniss, if they were just two miners in hundreds, they could have been forgotten.
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Post by misticalcookie on May 2, 2011 20:39:21 GMT -8
And, Katniss and Gale would be coming from 12, a district much closer to 13 then the other districts. By the time people in 12 realized they were missing, they'd probably already be in 13.
I think they would have made it to 13. But would it be any better for them? Stuck underground.
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Post by Peeta the Frosting Prince on May 4, 2011 7:56:56 GMT -8
But why would they even go and think of 13? Katniss was unaware of 13 still being in existence until Bonnie and Twill showed up, and the only reason why they showed up was a direct result to Katniss's Games.
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Post by Rowena on May 6, 2011 12:53:53 GMT -8
I agree with Leah's point - although if they'd wandered into where 13 was, like the destroyed part, they probably would have been captured and taken into the real 13 to explain where they came from, and might have ended up living there too.
Unless they decided to avoid 13 altogether, in which case they'd have been screwed. Or lucky to have escaped.
But do you think they're relationship - friendship or romance - would have survived that?
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Post by Peeta the Frosting Prince on May 6, 2011 16:47:52 GMT -8
Do we even know where 13 is in relation to a map of ours, like in today's terms/borders/whatever?
I think their friendship would have survived because that's on solid ground, both of them know where they stand on it. But it seems their romantic moments are tenuous and confusing at best, and under the stress of that kind of journey it could fall apart.
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Post by Rowena on May 7, 2011 13:19:45 GMT -8
I wonder, if their romance had fallen apart on the journey, would their friendship have survived? I think it would depend on who broke it off - if they agreed mutually, maybe they could go back to being friends, but if (like what really happened) Katniss decided she didn't care for Gale, I don't know if he could/would want to go back to being friends.
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Post by Peeta the Frosting Prince on May 8, 2011 6:55:11 GMT -8
And she might feel like something had been shattered between them anyway, like in CF with the kiss. Like he sat there and pretended things were the same, when to her they really weren't.
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Post by megasaurus on May 20, 2011 13:14:15 GMT -8
I feel like they may have ended up in a romantic relationship, it just wouldn't have lasted that long. They did come together for mutual survival and if they got away from everything then it's just the two of them, with maybe their families if they brought them along. Once your hormones start kicking in, they would probably get together.
As for the fact that they're extremely similar, that can sometimes strengthen the relationship as opposed to if they were really different. My sister and her fiancee are basically identical, they don't even need to use words to communicate. Just a grunt, weird sound, or a twitch of a hand and they know what to do, just like Katniss and Gale. My sister and her fiancee were also childhood friends like Gale and Katniss. They could have easily ended up together because Katniss wouldn't realise she needs a dandelion. If they games hadn't happened, she wouldn't have shattered and would have been fine having someone strong beside her to have an argument with or to kiss.
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Post by maxrider12 on Jun 23, 2011 13:16:31 GMT -8
This reminds me of the end of The Giver. (BTW, here's a spoiler) Jonas and Gabe run off into the wild, and it's never been made clear whether they lived or died.
I think that Katniss and Gale would have run off into the woods, but where would they go? In THG, they both thought that 13 was in ruins. So, if they ran off in THG, they wouldn't have known 13 still existed, and probably died in the wild.
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